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October 23, 2018 at 4:03 pm #4587
I’m wearing either a navy or black long gown. He has a navy suit tone on tone – similar to this. [https://www.mensusa.com/images/Mens-Navy-Color-Suit-7208.jpg](https://www.mensusa.com/images/Mens-Navy-Color-Suit-7208.jpg) .
He has a black tie – [https://www.amazon.com/KissTies-Mens-Necktie-Paisley-Gift/dp/B01GDH7O7A](https://www.amazon.com/KissTies-Mens-Necktie-Paisley-Gift/dp/B01GDH7O7A) similar to this.
He has 2 black bow ties.
I was planning on having him wear a french cuff shirt.
He has black leather shoes (not sure if any are patent) or white and black patent leather shoes – similar to this – [https://guide.alibaba.com/shop/mens-black-white-patent-leather-lined-pointed-toe-dress-dinner-suit-brogues-shoes-sizes-6-7-8-9-10-11-12_2865186.html](https://guide.alibaba.com/shop/mens-black-white-patent-leather-lined-pointed-toe-dress-dinner-suit-brogues-shoes-sizes-6-7-8-9-10-11-12_2865186.html)
First question –
Is that suit appropriate?
Is that black tie appropriate?
Could he wear a black bow tie with a navy suit?
What pocket squares are appropriate with those ties?
Are those shoes appropriate? Or should we just do black?
Should I buy a black vest for him? I thought it may tie in the bowtie/tie
Are black suspenders appropriate?October 23, 2018 at 4:03 pm #4588
Yes, the suit and tie work fine, doesnt need to be patent leather since it’s not ‘Black tie’.
You can get him a vest, just make sure it’s the exact same color, otherwise it will look out of place at a formal event.
Black bow tie with navy suit? Yes – although not conventional, get a smoking jacket for the bow tie.
Pocket square – white, tv fold.
Just do black shoes, don’t need to be patent since it’s not a ‘Black tie’
Suspenders are appropriate, but only without a belt and ideally without beltloops. However, it might be a bit too much…I’d opt for a belt with a silver buckle, nothing too fancy – think less is more.
Ideally though – go full black tie, smoking jacket, cummerbund, French cuff shirt, black bow tie and black dress shoes – killer look!October 23, 2018 at 4:03 pm #4589
You know op, maybe you can try a flashier dress. The point of black tie is for your date to take the attentionOctober 23, 2018 at 4:03 pm #4590
You mention that attractive black tie, so I want to decode the meaning of the dress codes in case it isn’t clear.
– “White Tie” is the most formal western dress code. Attendees would wear a tuxedo with tails or a floor-length evening gown. This dress code is not in especially active use.
– “Black Tie” is the second most formal western dress code. Attendees would wear a tuxedo (no tails) and a cocktail dress or evening gown.
– “Black Tie Optional” means “as formal as you can come, but not necessarily black tie”. For people preferring to wear dresses, this isn’t really a change, but for people who wear pants, this implies that a dark suit is also appropriate–as formal as handy without going up to black tie.
> Is that suit appropriate?
If he has a dark suit that isn’t pin-striped, it might be marginally more formal and preferable. I certainly wouldn’t think it’s inappropriate.
> Is that black tie appropriate?
It looks appropriate.
I am surprised if a black tie looks good with a navy suit. I would not hesitate to use a different color necktie so long as it looked formal: a dark color, no exciting pattern, etc. The point of ‘black tie’ is to indicate formality more than color.
> Could he wear a black bow tie with a navy suit?
I wouldn’t. The hosts chose a very conservative dress code, and that is a nontraditional look.
> What pocket squares are appropriate with those ties?
Since this is a more-formal dress code, I would encourage a conservative choice. White or none might be the most conservative. A pocket square can add some flair, but a high-flair look isn’t called for.
> Are those shoes appropriate? Or should we just do black?
I wouldn’t stress tons about it, but if he has some more conservative shoes that look good, that sounds like a nice option.
> Should I buy a black vest for him? I thought it may tie in the bowtie/tie
Sounds like it might look weird to me.
> Are black suspenders appropriate?
Yes (in place of a belt).
Naturally many guests won’t be as fussy about conservatism as I am, but I think it is what “BTO” calls for.October 23, 2018 at 4:03 pm #4591
Black bowtie: only with a tuxedo
Black long tie: only at a funeral
With a dark suit at a formal event you want to go with a solid coloured tie in a formal colour: silver or navy would be perfect. Black shoes, white pocket square with a TV fold and a white shirt with French cuffs. No vest. Suspenders or no is fine: they will never be seen anyway.
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