Black Tie Optional – Male Fashion Advice needed!

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    Rob
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    I’m wearing either a navy or black long gown. He has a navy suit tone on tone – similar to this. [https://www.mensusa.com/images/Mens-Navy-Color-Suit-7208.jpg](https://www.mensusa.com/images/Mens-Navy-Color-Suit-7208.jpg) .

    He has a black tie – [https://www.amazon.com/KissTies-Mens-Necktie-Paisley-Gift/dp/B01GDH7O7A](https://www.amazon.com/KissTies-Mens-Necktie-Paisley-Gift/dp/B01GDH7O7A) similar to this.

    He has 2 black bow ties.

    I was planning on having him wear a french cuff shirt.

    He has black leather shoes (not sure if any are patent) or white and black patent leather shoes – similar to this – [https://guide.alibaba.com/shop/mens-black-white-patent-leather-lined-pointed-toe-dress-dinner-suit-brogues-shoes-sizes-6-7-8-9-10-11-12_2865186.html](https://guide.alibaba.com/shop/mens-black-white-patent-leather-lined-pointed-toe-dress-dinner-suit-brogues-shoes-sizes-6-7-8-9-10-11-12_2865186.html)

    First question –

    Is that suit appropriate?

    Is that black tie appropriate?

    Could he wear a black bow tie with a navy suit?

    What pocket squares are appropriate with those ties?

    Are those shoes appropriate? Or should we just do black?

    Should I buy a black vest for him? I thought it may tie in the bowtie/tie

    Are black suspenders appropriate?

    #4588

    L44KSO

    Yes, the suit and tie work fine, doesnt need to be patent leather since it’s not ‘Black tie’.

    You can get him a vest, just make sure it’s the exact same color, otherwise it will look out of place at a formal event.

    Black bow tie with navy suit? Yes – although not conventional, get a smoking jacket for the bow tie.

    Pocket square – white, tv fold.

    Just do black shoes, don’t need to be patent since it’s not a ‘Black tie’

    Suspenders are appropriate, but only without a belt and ideally without beltloops. However, it might be a bit too much…I’d opt for a belt with a silver buckle, nothing too fancy – think less is more.

    Ideally though – go full black tie, smoking jacket, cummerbund, French cuff shirt, black bow tie and black dress shoes – killer look!

    #4589

    Uptons_BJs

    You know op, maybe you can try a flashier dress. The point of black tie is for your date to take the attention

    #4590

    RDMXGD

    You mention that attractive black tie, so I want to decode the meaning of the dress codes in case it isn’t clear.

    – “White Tie” is the most formal western dress code. Attendees would wear a tuxedo with tails or a floor-length evening gown. This dress code is not in especially active use.

    – “Black Tie” is the second most formal western dress code. Attendees would wear a tuxedo (no tails) and a cocktail dress or evening gown.

    – “Black Tie Optional” means “as formal as you can come, but not necessarily black tie”. For people preferring to wear dresses, this isn’t really a change, but for people who wear pants, this implies that a dark suit is also appropriate–as formal as handy without going up to black tie.

    > Is that suit appropriate?

    If he has a dark suit that isn’t pin-striped, it might be marginally more formal and preferable. I certainly wouldn’t think it’s inappropriate.

    > Is that black tie appropriate?

    It looks appropriate.

    I am surprised if a black tie looks good with a navy suit. I would not hesitate to use a different color necktie so long as it looked formal: a dark color, no exciting pattern, etc. The point of ‘black tie’ is to indicate formality more than color.

    > Could he wear a black bow tie with a navy suit?

    I wouldn’t. The hosts chose a very conservative dress code, and that is a nontraditional look.

    > What pocket squares are appropriate with those ties?

    Since this is a more-formal dress code, I would encourage a conservative choice. White or none might be the most conservative. A pocket square can add some flair, but a high-flair look isn’t called for.

    > Are those shoes appropriate? Or should we just do black?

    I wouldn’t stress tons about it, but if he has some more conservative shoes that look good, that sounds like a nice option.

    > Should I buy a black vest for him? I thought it may tie in the bowtie/tie

    Sounds like it might look weird to me.

    > Are black suspenders appropriate?

    Yes (in place of a belt).

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    Naturally many guests won’t be as fussy about conservatism as I am, but I think it is what “BTO” calls for.

    #4591

    papitsu

    Black bowtie: only with a tuxedo

    Black long tie: only at a funeral

    With a dark suit at a formal event you want to go with a solid coloured tie in a formal colour: silver or navy would be perfect. Black shoes, white pocket square with a TV fold and a white shirt with French cuffs. No vest. Suspenders or no is fine: they will never be seen anyway.

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